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		<title>Comment on Energy Constrained Learning by John Sobol</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2011/09/19/energy-constrained-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sobol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fascinating and scary but I think highly relevant and clear post. Thanks. I will return to it I am sure. You might be interested in my blog, www.youareyourmedia.com, whose latest post also addresses the future of education, technology and the environment. Best, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fascinating and scary but I think highly relevant and clear post. Thanks. I will return to it I am sure. You might be interested in my blog, <a href="http://www.youareyourmedia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youareyourmedia.com</a>, whose latest post also addresses the future of education, technology and the environment. Best, John.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Principles for Disruptive Learning by Gregory Rader &#124; OnTheSpiral.com</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2011/06/03/principles-for-disruptive-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Rader &#124; OnTheSpiral.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gary,
I agree on both points.  My comment &quot;integrated into everything we do&quot; is really a shorthand for: 

There will be a diverse ecology of solutions, none of which will individually replace the current system.

I even hesitate a little at the use of &#039;&quot;university-level&quot; learning&#039; despite the quotes.  I think we need to get away from these hierarchical concepts altogether and instead focus on usefulness and relevancy.  &quot;University-level&quot; physics is (mostly) irrelevant to someone who wants to become a literary writer.  And, I don&#039;t mean &quot;useful and relevant&quot; to imply that we should only be concerned with economically important trades.  For someone seeking self-actualization and enlightenment it might be the classics of philosophy or theology that are useful and relevant.

So, in response to your first point I would say we need easily accessible systems that provide relevant information at whatever level a given individual needs.  Those systems might have highly disparate designs and funding mechanisms for different domains.

With regard to your second hesitation I think the same point (as above) applies to the need for domain appropriate collaborative networks.

I recognize that this is somewhat of a non-answer, but to get more specific we may need to refer to specific domains or specific types of behaviors, exchanges, relationships, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gary,<br />
I agree on both points.  My comment &#8220;integrated into everything we do&#8221; is really a shorthand for: </p>
<p>There will be a diverse ecology of solutions, none of which will individually replace the current system.</p>
<p>I even hesitate a little at the use of &#8216;&#8221;university-level&#8221; learning&#8217; despite the quotes.  I think we need to get away from these hierarchical concepts altogether and instead focus on usefulness and relevancy.  &#8220;University-level&#8221; physics is (mostly) irrelevant to someone who wants to become a literary writer.  And, I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;useful and relevant&#8221; to imply that we should only be concerned with economically important trades.  For someone seeking self-actualization and enlightenment it might be the classics of philosophy or theology that are useful and relevant.</p>
<p>So, in response to your first point I would say we need easily accessible systems that provide relevant information at whatever level a given individual needs.  Those systems might have highly disparate designs and funding mechanisms for different domains.</p>
<p>With regard to your second hesitation I think the same point (as above) applies to the need for domain appropriate collaborative networks.</p>
<p>I recognize that this is somewhat of a non-answer, but to get more specific we may need to refer to specific domains or specific types of behaviors, exchanges, relationships, etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Principles for Disruptive Learning by Gary Lewis</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2011/06/03/principles-for-disruptive-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg - I tend to use the word &quot;learning&quot; as distinct from &quot;education&quot; and its institutional connotations. I consider learning as a superset that includes the learning now delivered in educational institutions (eg, learning how to add fractions). I also use the term to cover cradle-to-grave lifelong learning. So it&#039;s expansive and deliberately amorphous because I cannot see far enough into tomorrow to imagine how it will all work ... and, particularly, how it will be paid for.

You may be right that learning will be integrated into everything we do. I hope that&#039;s the case. But I offer two hesitations. One, change happens over time in layers. Past, current, and future artifacts co-exist contemporaneously. For example, students currently pay to attend colleges and universities. Getting from that reality to a different tomorrow where &quot;university-level&quot; learning is available to everyone throughout the world at an affordable (eg, free) price is going to be a stretch. My belief is that alternative currencies can play a pivotal role in the transition, but I do not know enough about these alternatives to figure out how it might work.

My second hesitation is that much learning requires a social context not suitable for DIY activities. I&#039;ll mention just one ... mentoring. People learn by trying, failing, experimenting, failing again, researching, failing, talking with other learners in the same situation, and perhaps understanding or reaching a to-be-continued state. The presence of mentors,  either peer or more experienced, can be essential to the ease of this process and the impact it has on the learner. Somewhere in there I believe we&#039;ll see broad expansions in the concept of common-pool knowledge resources (eg, a simple example are what we now call Open Educational Resources), in the concept of learner-cum-creator-cum-mentor, and (I believe) in a concept of &quot;gift and receive&quot; that involves alternative currencies which obsolete purchase and sale.

Thanks very much for your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg &#8211; I tend to use the word &#8220;learning&#8221; as distinct from &#8220;education&#8221; and its institutional connotations. I consider learning as a superset that includes the learning now delivered in educational institutions (eg, learning how to add fractions). I also use the term to cover cradle-to-grave lifelong learning. So it&#8217;s expansive and deliberately amorphous because I cannot see far enough into tomorrow to imagine how it will all work &#8230; and, particularly, how it will be paid for.</p>
<p>You may be right that learning will be integrated into everything we do. I hope that&#8217;s the case. But I offer two hesitations. One, change happens over time in layers. Past, current, and future artifacts co-exist contemporaneously. For example, students currently pay to attend colleges and universities. Getting from that reality to a different tomorrow where &#8220;university-level&#8221; learning is available to everyone throughout the world at an affordable (eg, free) price is going to be a stretch. My belief is that alternative currencies can play a pivotal role in the transition, but I do not know enough about these alternatives to figure out how it might work.</p>
<p>My second hesitation is that much learning requires a social context not suitable for DIY activities. I&#8217;ll mention just one &#8230; mentoring. People learn by trying, failing, experimenting, failing again, researching, failing, talking with other learners in the same situation, and perhaps understanding or reaching a to-be-continued state. The presence of mentors,  either peer or more experienced, can be essential to the ease of this process and the impact it has on the learner. Somewhere in there I believe we&#8217;ll see broad expansions in the concept of common-pool knowledge resources (eg, a simple example are what we now call Open Educational Resources), in the concept of learner-cum-creator-cum-mentor, and (I believe) in a concept of &#8220;gift and receive&#8221; that involves alternative currencies which obsolete purchase and sale.</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your question.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Principles for Disruptive Learning by Gregory Rader &#124; OnTheSpiral.com</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2011/06/03/principles-for-disruptive-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Rader &#124; OnTheSpiral.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, happy to have you as a reader and apologies for ignoring the economic implications ;)

I am curious what you mean by &quot;the finances of tomorrow&#039;s learning&quot;.  I don&#039;t really expect tomorrow&#039;s learning to be subject to a unique financial infrastructure the way education is today.  Just as &quot;internet&quot; is now integrated into everything we do, I expect learning will be integrated into everything we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, happy to have you as a reader and apologies for ignoring the economic implications <img src='http://garymlewis.com/instchg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am curious what you mean by &#8220;the finances of tomorrow&#8217;s learning&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t really expect tomorrow&#8217;s learning to be subject to a unique financial infrastructure the way education is today.  Just as &#8220;internet&#8221; is now integrated into everything we do, I expect learning will be integrated into everything we do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on XQuery as a Web Query Tool by Gary Lewis</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2009/06/19/xquery-as-a-web-query-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cefn - That sounds very cool. I hope we can stay in touch; I&#039;d like to hear more. Thanks for the comment. ... Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cefn &#8211; That sounds very cool. I hope we can stay in touch; I&#8217;d like to hear more. Thanks for the comment. &#8230; Gary</p>
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		<title>Comment on XQuery as a Web Query Tool by Cefn Hoile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cefn Hoile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking into the use of a browser based webserver to enable ordinary people to edit and process schema-driven XML (their own data authored according to their own schema) on their local machine. Current tools are expensive and over-engineered for this job. I aim to make this open source and free.

A firefox plugin acting as a webserver seems like an ideal approach - as a cross-browser and easy-to-install component which is easily hackable and extensible with widely understood HTML-oriented libraries for presentation and data entry as well as dynamic AJAX-like interactions with a backing data set which lives on the hard drive.

I see this being used in order to create data-driven websites or for non-techies to hack their own personal information managers. 

XQuery in the browser would be a useful facility, but for now, I&#039;m planning to use something like Saxon running XQueries, triggered by POW - David Kellogg&#039;s Plain Old Webserver. 
http://davidkellogg.com/wiki/Main_Page

Some of the XML processing tasks are doable with XPath driven by Javascript directly in the page without any additional plugins in Firefox at least.

It may be that the facilities required for this project will need direct access to the OS capabilites anyway (i.e. writing files onto the harddrive), so would not be able to run inside a browser sandbox even if XQuery was available to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking into the use of a browser based webserver to enable ordinary people to edit and process schema-driven XML (their own data authored according to their own schema) on their local machine. Current tools are expensive and over-engineered for this job. I aim to make this open source and free.</p>
<p>A firefox plugin acting as a webserver seems like an ideal approach &#8211; as a cross-browser and easy-to-install component which is easily hackable and extensible with widely understood HTML-oriented libraries for presentation and data entry as well as dynamic AJAX-like interactions with a backing data set which lives on the hard drive.</p>
<p>I see this being used in order to create data-driven websites or for non-techies to hack their own personal information managers. </p>
<p>XQuery in the browser would be a useful facility, but for now, I&#8217;m planning to use something like Saxon running XQueries, triggered by POW &#8211; David Kellogg&#8217;s Plain Old Webserver.<br />
<a href="http://davidkellogg.com/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://davidkellogg.com/wiki/Main_Page</a></p>
<p>Some of the XML processing tasks are doable with XPath driven by Javascript directly in the page without any additional plugins in Firefox at least.</p>
<p>It may be that the facilities required for this project will need direct access to the OS capabilites anyway (i.e. writing files onto the harddrive), so would not be able to run inside a browser sandbox even if XQuery was available to it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web Query Tools &#8211; Part 2 by Matthew Theobald</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2009/04/24/web-query-tools-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Theobald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may interested in an emrging web standard for the &quot;deep&quot;, &quot;hidden&quot;, &quot;invisible&quot;, &quot;structured&quot; or &quot;dark&quot; web. The Internet Search Environment Number catalogs the form based interfaces with robust metadata. See the animated &quot;space&quot; elevator speech video on http://blog.isen.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may interested in an emrging web standard for the &#8220;deep&#8221;, &#8220;hidden&#8221;, &#8220;invisible&#8221;, &#8220;structured&#8221; or &#8220;dark&#8221; web. The Internet Search Environment Number catalogs the form based interfaces with robust metadata. See the animated &#8220;space&#8221; elevator speech video on <a href="http://blog.isen.org" rel="nofollow">http://blog.isen.org</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Imagining Tomorrow&#8217;s University by Bob</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2008/11/11/imagining-tomorrows-university/comment-page-1/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job!  I.m not involved in higher ed at all but your thoughts are certainly intriguing.  I hope that this serves the purpose that you intended.  Thanks for sending it to me Les.
Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job!  I.m not involved in higher ed at all but your thoughts are certainly intriguing.  I hope that this serves the purpose that you intended.  Thanks for sending it to me Les.<br />
Bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Search and Who Knew? by Gary Lewis</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2008/07/30/google-search-and-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Usmanou - Great to hear from you! I haven&#039;t done much with Cuil yet. Sounds cool though :-)

Please say hi to the DA folks for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Usmanou &#8211; Great to hear from you! I haven&#8217;t done much with Cuil yet. Sounds cool though <img src='http://garymlewis.com/instchg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Please say hi to the DA folks for me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Search and Who Knew? by Usmanou Nsangou</title>
		<link>http://garymlewis.com/instchg/2008/07/30/google-search-and-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Usmanou Nsangou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gary,
Great topic! Have you tried the new search engine yet?
http://www.cuil.com; it&#039;s supposed to rival google.

Usmanou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gary,<br />
Great topic! Have you tried the new search engine yet?<br />
<a href="http://www.cuil.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cuil.com</a>; it&#8217;s supposed to rival google.</p>
<p>Usmanou</p>
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